One of my favorite podcasts of all time

Samuel Zell (born Shmuel Zielonka, September 28, 1941) is an American billionaire businessman and philanthropist. A former lawyer, Zell is the founder and chairman of Equity Group Investments, a private investment firm focused on building real estate-related businesses in emerging markets, founded in 1968. He has substantial interests in, and is the chairman of, several public companies listed on the New York Stock ExchangeEquity Residential (EQR), Equity LifeStyle Properties (ELS), Equity Commonwealth (EQC), Covanta Holding Corp. (CVA), and Anixter. In 2018, Bloomberg ranked Zell as the world’s 397th richest person, with a fortune of $4.4 billion.

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I could listen to Sam Zell all day long. Here the podcast on Spotify or Overcast.