One of my favorite podcasts of all time

Samuel Zell (born Shmuel Zielonka, September 28, 1941) is an American billionaire businessman and philanthropist. A former lawyer, Zell is the founder and chairman of Equity Group Investments, a private investment firm focused on building real estate-related businesses in emerging markets, founded in 1968. He has substantial interests in, and is the chairman of, several public companies listed on the New York Stock Exchange: Equity Residential (EQR), Equity LifeStyle Properties (ELS), Equity Commonwealth (EQC), Covanta Holding Corp. (CVA), and Anixter. In 2018, Bloomberg ranked Zell as the world’s 397th richest person, with a fortune of $4.4 billion.

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I could listen to Sam Zell all day long. Here the podcast on Spotify or Overcast.